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Tuesday 12 August 2008

Newsflash: one hundred KDE developers start using GNOME!

Nice headline, isn't it? I should considering moving to a press job :-)

Today at Akademy is an embedded and mobile day, and Nokia gave away one hundred N810. Since then, wherever I go, I see people playing with their new device. And since it's GNOME-based, it means those KDE developers are using GNOME! More seriously, Nokia's strategy of giving devices away for free (or at a reduced price, like they also did previously) really seems to help attract people.

Also, it looks like some KDE people have planned a trap to imprison me here. Hopefully, I'll still be able to escape today. Not that I dislike the discussions I have here (quite the contrary, actually), but I'm supposed to travel to Romania very early tomorrow morning. This also means I'll be offline for a few days and it will be my first complete offline experience since quite some time... I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this!

[12:37] | [GNOME] | [#486]

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1. ervin [12/08/2008@13:23]

Yeah, I exported the whole strike concept here, to be sure you'd stay longer. ;-)

Too bad I didn't see you today yet. I hope to be able to say goodbye at least.

2. Andreas Nilsson [12/08/2008@13:35]

Of course they outsmart your diabolic plans faster than you can say "I am not the GNOME Panel maintainer"
www.kdedevelopers.org/nod...
Haha on you mon ami!

3. Henri Bergius [12/08/2008@13:44]

The strike started about 30min before my flight to Stockholm was due to depart. This meant hours of delays as the pilots had to do all the unloading and loading of luggage.

In the end we got to Stockholm where I had to stay overnight as the delays made me miss the Helsinki plane...

4. Foole [12/08/2008@14:51]

100 hundred? Like 10,000?

5. rawsausage [12/08/2008@17:02]

At last the KDE folks got themselves usable computer environments! Hooray for that! (The most retarded ones started attempting to ruin it instantly though.)

6. Michael [12/08/2008@18:59]

They might not use Gnome for long:

Why did you do this port?
Because we were going to make Maemo use Qt in the future and we were making a browser based on Mozilla for the N810, so now we are making this new browser version based on Qt. (dot.kde.org/1218543988/)

7. andre klapper [12/08/2008@19:07]

Hmm, Michael was quicker, but I'd also like to mention that the next software version (Fremantle) for the Nokia Internet Tablet Series will have community-supported Qt libraries, and its predecessor (Harmattan) will have officially supported Qt libraries.
Qt hackers, rock on! :-)

8. mathew [12/08/2008@20:13]

Highly misleading to say that the N8x0 systems are using GNOME.

No, they're using Maemo, which happens to use some of the same libraries as GNOME.

That's like saying that Xfce is using GNOME because it uses GTK+ and Pango...

9. rawsausage [12/08/2008@22:45]

I had been hoping that Nokia would some day release an internet tablet (with 3G data) with high usability gui environment. If there will be Qt, bleh. There went usability. Back to considering iPhone/HTC Diamond etc.

10. Vincent [13/08/2008@00:04]

Foole: heh, good catch. Fixed.

11. Vincent [13/08/2008@00:06]

mathew: Maemo is definitely GNOME-based at the moment. It's using way more than just GTK+ and pango (look at the link in the post). Also, it's a platform that will grow, as others pointed out, with Qt joining the gang.

12. Leo S [13/08/2008@01:04]

@rawsausage "If there will be Qt, bleh. There went usability."

Something in your brain is broken. Usability has no dependence on any specific toolkit.

13. jon [13/08/2008@15:59]

I agree with you Leo S, rawsausage definitely has a broken brain.

Vincent, it may be mostly gnome now but don't let that fool you, the long term plan is to be mostly QT. They are just trying not to break any gnome fanboy hearts by deprecating it slowly.

14. rawsausage [13/08/2008@16:51]

"Usability has no dependence on any specific toolkit." Actually, it sort of definitely has, because it (like nothing that matters) has nothing to do with technology.

The toolkit and the default languages used impose certain mindset, which correlates quite heavily with the design & development process. Furthermore, Non-KDE and Qt developer base overlap quite heavily. As we all know, KDE has got absolutely horrible usability. Likely those Qt folks will bring their brainfarts all over that mobile device GUI, ruining it entirely.

Nokia can do whatever they wish and have their long range plans. My long range plan is to stay very very far away from their products.

15. foo [13/08/2008@22:02]

The howto at #2 works fine. I just removed whole of GNOME and replaced it with KDE within 30 minutes.

16. Jos [16/08/2008@10:07]

The way Maemo works now is rather nice, so I do not think they will remove all current code like that. It will be an example of a mixed GNOME/Qt system for some releases.

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